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Raising the handlebars
« on: March 31, 2021, 04:04:43 PM »
My joints can't take daily riding in the "typical" efficient biking position. I have to sit fairly upright.

On my last two e-bikes, I have replaced the stem AND the handlebars, for a total of 4" of extra height. However, the Serial 1 handlebars have the brake lines routed inside them, and the stem looks non-standard - very large and square. Perhaps I was just looking at a stem cover? I can't find a manual online, and the assembly videos show that the handlebars and stem come pre-attached to the bike.

I went to the local Harley dealer, and they say they don't have a manual yet, printed or online. They also didn't want to take apart the stem for me to look at. I did note that the handlebars are higher than the seat; probably because this is more cruiser/commuter oriented. My last two bikes were mountain bikes where the handlebars seemed to be at the same level at the seat. So maybe I won't need to raise the handlebars...but it's hard to tell, especially since the shop didn't have the bike in my size.

Does anyone have access to a manual, or a bike you can examine the stem with? Thanks!
« Last Edit: March 31, 2021, 08:31:21 PM by DailyLow »

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Re: Raising the handlebars
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2021, 11:54:08 PM »
So you saw one at a dealer and they donít have a manual?   I would think they would have supplied them with one.    I mean how would a mechanic know what could be done or adjusted.   Appears to me they canít be raised and replacing the handlebars would be a major headache with hydraulic brake lines to deal with let alone the electrics.   I might head down to the shop here in town and see if they have any on hand.   
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Re: Raising the handlebars
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2021, 04:35:02 AM »
The local dealer said "Serial 1 said they sent us a manual, but we can't find one, in print or electronic."

But I contacted Serial 1 service. They confirmed that the handlebars and stem are both custom, due to the cable routing, and are not meant to be replaced. So you have to find one that already fits you.

At least he sent me the geometry figures, so if you sit on one size, you can see how different the next size would be. I also noted that despite the different-looking frame and tires, the Mosh and Rush (and the step-through, for that matter) both have the same sizes aside from standover height. So you can try a different model, if it's in a size you are interested in. My dealer has a small Step-through, a medium and an XL Mosh, and a large Rush - that might be a standard "dealer kit".

I dunno if the formatting of this table will come through, here goes:

Size/Model   Size   Stand Over Height (50mm in front of saddle)   Stack   Reach   Wheelbase   Handle bar Width (mm)
RUSH/CTY   Small   686.5   575   384   1101.8   630
RUSH/CTY   Medium   713.5   630   405   1145.1   630
RUSH/CTY   Large   758.3   660   414   1166.2   670
RUSH/CTY   XL   795.6   690   438   1202.3   670
RUSH/CTY STEP-THRU   Small   448.6   575   384   1101.8   630
RUSH/CTY STEP-THRU   Medium   448.6   630   405   1145.1   630
RUSH/CTY STEP-THRU   Large   448.6   660   414   1166.2   670
MOSH/CTY   Small   693.5   575   384   1101.8   630
MOSH/CTY   Medium   707.7   630   405   1145.1   630
MOSH/CTY   Large   720.5   660   414   1166.2   670
MOSH/CTY   XL   725.6   690   438   1202.3   670
« Last Edit: April 01, 2021, 04:39:12 AM by DailyLow »

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Re: Raising the handlebars
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2021, 02:57:59 AM »
Thanks for sharing. I guess the custom stem and handlebars on the Serial 1 ebikes might be one downside. I have no idea where Serial 1 is going from here but I wonder if these commuter ebikes are just a start, provided everything goes well. Lots of people shopping for ebikes want a relaxed, more upright riding position. Front suspension would be another big selling point.

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Re: Raising the handlebars
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2021, 05:50:20 AM »
I got another email about bikes shipping.    They had some links in the email.   I found the electronic version of the owners manual there.   It mentions a qualified service provider may be able to change handlebar height.  I canít imagine you could get much height as there is only so much steer tube sticking out the top of the head tube. 
Check it out here. 
https://support.serial1.com
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Re: Raising the handlebars
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2021, 11:00:25 PM »
Great, thanks for posting that here. Yeah, I see that on page 25 of the US owner's manual (at https://support.serial1.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/360092279312/_US__CTY_Owner_s_Manual_2020.pdf).

The word "may" doesn't give me enough confidence to buy one, but it does give me enough hope that I'm going to keep checking back at the site. In fact I think I'll email Serial 1 support and ask again. I asked before, but they didn't have any info then.

I mostly gave up and bought a Pedego Conveyor. Same general "low-maintenance commuter" vibe with belt drive and sealed gears, same tire width, same MSRP. It's not as nice as the Rush/Cty Speed I had my eye on - it's class 1 instead of Class 3, 468Wh instead of 709Wh, and ~300% gearing range (Alfine 8 hub) instead of ~400%. I would have far preferred the Serial 1 if it fit, but I was easily able to modify the Conveyor's standard handlebars and stem so I can ride in comfort, and it was 1/3 off. It's not amazing, but it does what I need.

I could sell the Conveyor or relegate it to "daily fitness bike" status if I'm ever confident I could get the Serial 1 to fit me properly.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2021, 11:02:47 PM by DailyLow »

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